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Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 2	Posted - 2013.05.08 15:42:00 - [1] - Quote Still compiling the code that will do the score calculations, hang on there.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 4	Posted - 2013.05.10 12:46:00 - [2] - Quote Confirming I now too have the flu (nbs sadly)
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 5	Posted - 2013.05.10 14:57:00 - [3] - Quote HAHA snap saw that one coming
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 6	Posted - 2013.05.10 15:07:00 - [4] - Quote Yeah they must have chosen to remove CCP stuff, because PL got 2 Rhea, an orca and a NOIR aeon. That together wouldn't be enough to do it. GG, do we get a breakdown CCP?
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 6	Posted - 2013.05.10 15:12:00 - [5] - Quote Stop making us Belgians look bad for crying out loud and let the CCP folks poast some numbers first.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 6	Posted - 2013.05.10 15:16:00 - [6] - Quote Ok, I'll give Grarr some slack for being a grump. Going from 'All kills under any circumstances' to 'We shant be counting the kills from the in-game event we specifically set up for this thing' is kind of 'say what now?'. We could have gone out and shot some PLAYER ISK instead you know :)
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 6	Posted - 2013.05.10 15:40:00 - [7] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Who the hell is Urine Alliance? Apparently not Kings of Low Sec~~~
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 6	Posted - 2013.05.10 16:05:00 - [8] - Quote Wait, so them Rheas and AEon weren't even in the tally, it's just a bunch of scrub ships? How the f did they calc these numbers, and based on what?
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 7	Posted - 2013.05.10 17:32:00 - [9] - Quote If you're going to hardman poast, don't be in ***** Sniggerdly. Everyone in PL(or eve for that matter) knows they're just the scrubs who can't make it into even the ** PL corps (which would be everyone but SWAT or OSHIT errr HABIT). And you came from TEST I love PL but nullsec shenanigans is in the status quo, esp compared to low sec (also true -10 here we come). ps: Oh lol I noticed someone already put you in your place, still same old. On the topic of Grarr, I think he he has some right to be his usual mad self (the man cares!). The devhax comment is silly, since people died to them and the CCP ships dropped loot, so they did 'alter the ISK balance of Eve'. Tbh, most of us were expecting someone else to win, but more like another lowsec group (like BALKAN). Did they count 11am 5th till 11am GMT 6th or what? Someone's gonna make me write a script to tally this up soon. Also Elise, as if you didn't have a fuckton of ** on standby :P
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 7	Posted - 2013.05.10 17:39:00 - [10] - Quote He makes all us Belgians look bad, for fucks sake. I'd like to know how well RvB and co did btw, where's the juicy stats?! edit: whilst some of the regulars from OSHIT/HABIT are here, can someone tell me what the hell happened to Viper. I quit for a year and he's quit Eve? That bastard had a ton of my stuff (I did give it to him but still)

Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 7	Posted - 2013.05.10 17:47:00 - [11] - Quote I wouldn't know, most of us came from nullsec direction. Are you still such a special needs babby edit: @MIk, cause I fail at quoting anything at all Edit2: Thanks Dez, that's a shame really, hope he's only half serious about being done with it (like most of us are when we quit)
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 7	Posted - 2013.05.10 17:51:00 - [12] - Quote Double poasting, because now that we've all smugged, backpedalled and made fun of Belgians (fu too Dark), can CEECEEPEE please provide some breakdowns so us stats junkies can get it on. A lot of groups killed a lot of stuff, and there's LOW SEC HONOUR at stake
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 7	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:23:00 - [13] - Quote Grarr has a point though lol, Fozzie is trolling hard here. Tbh, this is a great troll of CCP all-round because prior to the declaration no PL were poasting and everyone pretty much agreed it was bagged (i.e. were counting the ships/pods). It's funny though, and the end rankings without CCP are kind of surprising (What were waffles doing, cleanup on the main PL fleet?). But this is eve, where even the devs can be dicks haha
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 8	Posted - 2013.05.10 18:48:00 - [14] - Quote Ironically it feels eve has more hope knowing CCP can troll like this. Need to buy Fozzie a drink at next fanfest tbh.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 8	Posted - 2013.05.10 19:01:00 - [15] - Quote Well, we have a flu going round at work here too so they prob weren't kidding on that one. It's a scoped query on the DB then write a script to get the final blow person's alliance (or corp if not in alliance) and just + the value into a hash. If they had to write the script to get the total value of a kill (you'd hope not) it's probably a couple of hours, if they already had that maybe an hour. Probably 20 lines of python? This is almost as funny as a urinal flag tbh :)
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 9	Posted - 2013.05.10 19:07:00 - [16] - Quote Allison A'vani wrote: It is pretty simple, the implants are worth 0 isk since they were generated by a console command, not actually bought nor available to be bought on the actual in game market. I think nobody missed that, and (internally) many of us are calling fair play on it. The ~~~ is in the going from 'all kills count no matter what' to 'we decided to count only if it's ingame generated'. That troll move caught everyone by surprise, so well played sirs ccp. ps: the python script you used is literally 20 lines right? Or did you do the unfashionable and did it all in the DB query? I bet you did :ewwww:
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 9	Posted - 2013.05.10 19:16:00 - [17] - Quote You know what, just for Grarr, I'll hang a snuffbox flag on my house in London, in honour of 'having killed most CCP pods' in this 'ere event. Given it's in London, it'll probably be seen by a ton more people than the Reykjavik flag!
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 9	Posted - 2013.05.10 19:22:00 - [18] - Quote Elise Randolph wrote: Snuff Box is already at the "we didn't want that flag, anyway" stage. It's good to see the healing process at work. no mate we deffo would like that flag, just calling CCP out for the trolling. Watched some of that syndicate stuff, it was terrible, you're not organising that are you?
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 9	Posted - 2013.05.10 19:40:00 - [19] - Quote leetcheese wrote: Ramirez Dora wrote: Elise Randolph wrote: Snuff Box is already at the "we didn't want that flag, anyway" stage. It's good to see the healing process at work. no mate we deffo would like that flag, just calling CCP out for the trolling. Watched some of that syndicate stuff, it was terrible, you're not organising that are you? "guys we are so relevant~ CCP was just trolling us!" You're in Sniggerdly, since when do you slave scrubs get to poast at all? No blanket eve-o poasting bans from Shamis lately?
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 10	Posted - 2013.05.10 20:19:00 - [20] - Quote Semi-srs note, was gonna say that if it was about just shooting players they won fair-n-square, but those weren't the rules and nobody was thinking otherwise pre-announcement. More importantly, did someone just claim it's not ok to win in Eve using meta, and that PL are fair players? Get out.

Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 18	Posted - 2013.05.11 09:51:00 - [21] - Quote Got to give it to PL for planning it the way they did, and it was dumb of CCP to put the kill event on the same day as the 1000s of rifters event. Once you're set up and traffic control kicks in, you have a one way meat grinder to farm up kills. As we said, we tried to get into that system but it was already in full traffic control mode. Who gets the credit in PL to come up with the idea once CCP put it on the same day? Doesn't seem ad-hoc at all in hindsight. Edit: and for people who still don't get it, they were repping the Nyx not to pee in your soup/event, but to rack up kills for the CCP event, very good PEEVEEPEE there.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 19	Posted - 2013.05.11 17:52:00 - [22] - Quote Obviously players who are devs and are playing the game, are not actually players (do we count them as human intelligence NPCs then?). Or maybe they should be discounted because they (supposedly) welped a gang into another gang by jumping into them. Obviously, that never happens in actual low sec. No in actual low sec people set up 130 man fleets around a static target expecting a 1000 strong opposition to come and shoot it (or to come into the meatgrinder), putting the entire thing into serious time dilation and engaging traffic control. Yep that's what usually happens around lowsec, not fighting in gangs around gates or hotdropping, but this large fleet static thingie shooting stuff. No wonder a lowsec alliance won the low sec contest, because they were doing very much low sec stuff. WAIT A MINUTE?!
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 20	Posted - 2013.05.11 18:08:00 - [23] - Quote Grath don't be a muppet, since when do you sit still against an opponent who can bring superior numbers? If we think we can have a GF without a ton of supers, or yes if we think we can gank some of you (which we do at times) we'll do it, as you know, is the usual MO in low sec. I'm sure the shooting the 1000 peeps was fun, and it was well played, but you won the low sec competition for 2 reasons: CCP changed their own rules, and you did it with a nullsec style shootout (albeit a lot more fun since the 1000 idiots stuck around to actually die). The stupidity of the first is the reason you won with the second, and even your own guys have lolled at the 180 on the rules.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 20	Posted - 2013.05.11 18:11:00 - [24] - Quote I loved HABIT/PL for the people, and the good fits and good fites, but the nullsec **** and moving around dragged on (also the periods without goodfites). Lowsec delivers daily, and the people are equally good tbh.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 20	Posted - 2013.05.11 18:24:00 - [25] - Quote penifSMASH wrote: Ramirez Dora wrote: the people are equally good tbh. i'm sure it's fun being on comms with cryhards like dark flare and grarr and an entire corp of people who think the word "urine" is comedy gold lmao It is actually, and HABIT/PL has plenty of spergs on it. Sadly none of our FCs go batty ever, but such is life. Also, snuff has consistently killed more per month than snigg for at least 6 months (didn't bother to check further but be my guest). I don't think there's much point comparing the two entities on a kill v kill ratio, since they do different things in different areas. If it comes to having smart peeps at the top that come up with good doctrines, and funny people on comms, then both have delivered that in my experience. I don't mind the smugposting, it's a part of PL and I did it just as much in the day :)
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 22	Posted - 2013.05.12 08:35:00 - [26] - Quote Bobbechk, is that in B-minor? Why are the 2 month old scrublords that managed to squeeze in with a corp move smugging so hard, damn boy.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 22	Posted - 2013.05.12 14:34:00 - [27] - Quote Too bad you couldn't kill any Vargurs in the Alliance Tourny eh!
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 24	Posted - 2013.05.12 14:59:00 - [28] - Quote Oh look, random noob corp guy posting. Everyone and their dog lolled @ CCP doing a 180 too (except some PL who really needed to affirm that their meat grinder was the only valid method). As for smug, it's part of being PL, they'd smug over winning a glass of milk (and I smugged just as hard, it's just what PL does). So yes, it's the 180 we're calling CCP out for, and they've said not a thing about it, except some **** & bull story about 'not being from player market'. Too bad nobody lost a AT ship during this shenanigans, or they'd have to remove that one too eh. Oh yes, and some of my corpmates have a strong dislike for PL for various reasons v0v Since when did everyone have to get along.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 24	Posted - 2013.05.12 15:13:00 - [29] - Quote IF you actually read the thread, you'd know CCP were roaming in fleets and actively engaging AND killing people (you know, as you do in low-sec). They didn't welp, and they fought pretty damn hard, and yes we went after them both times (us and a bunch of other people). The exception is a lot of nonsense, as you can bet your noob corp behind they did NOT exclude any of the various frigs/dessies and other stuff people got through redeeming (i.e. not valid by their new rules adjustment). If someone had taken out an AT ship into this event (it only being once after all) and it got killed ,that would have been a lot of ISK value, and equally disallowed by their new rule. They did the calculations, they saw our smug in this thread and made a call, because they're only human after all and thought it would prob be pretty lulz. Good troll CCP there, and at the same time they handed the whole thing to PL. They probably thought (one can't read mins) that this way it would be more representable of whomever did more low sec killing. In which case, they might consider not to do it on the same day as when someone is about to create a POS shootout scenario in the same arena. So yes, calling CCP out on the derp there, but you can have your own opinion et all.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 24	Posted - 2013.05.12 15:21:00 - [30] - Quote IamBeastx wrote: Ramirez Dora wrote: ......... my corpmates have a strong dislike for PL for various reasons v0v Since when did everyone have to get along. I would point out that not initially dis-allowing CCP mails into the tally was a slight oversight in the planning stages, but then i'd just get 'Thats a bad excuse/likely story' responses from the haters. Lets not forget that this was supposed to be a Player vs Player competition, Player vs Dev is always a different story, but the whiners would disagree to no end. I could also point out that this was an event by CCP to try and promote some lowsec fun PVP, but i'd only see 'they did it wrong, shoulda done it this way' responses from the wannabe's. I'd also like to point out that PL repping the NYX increased the timeframe of the competition, rather than us coming in and just nuking it but most likely the responses i'd get would be of 'FK PL cheats' type from the badposters. As for the Null-block alliances not fighting each other bit, in a huge engagement such as this one, when not in immediate danger you rack up the kills as fast as you can, we are here to pvp, which comes down to numbers, get the bigger one and you win, but some people just don't care unless it goes the way they want. PANDEMIC LEGION HAS THE BIGGER ONE I could agree on the oversight etc, but they didn't leave it out AND they took out fight-ready fleets to go and brawl in low-sec (again, AS YOU DO in low sec) so they were well into the spirit of it. It's perfectly logical when those two are combined that people will go after it thinking 'these guys will be worth a lot of ISK', and that CCP wanted to add some hard but juicy fights. After all, they surely didn't intend a nullsec style static object shootout with 1000s of people, because that is not fun and not lowsec. Mind you, not fun for the 1000s that kept traffic control going and welped into the meatgrinder. I'll happilly, again, give you lot props for doing it that way, it's the best approach. I'd rather call the decision to put the comp on the same time as the rifters event an oversight, because they obviously failed to see the kind of fight it would generate, and that SC kills will always draw in bigger nullsec guys. We had a lot of fun on the day, and I think we had a valid reason to think we'd won (and just like you we like a bit of smug). We've had our foot in our mouths for 20 pages over that one, but that doesn't mean we like to keep asking CCP 'why da **?\ and the only answer we've gotten so far is some c&b story about 'NOT PLAYER GEN'D'. v0v Like I said above, I would agree with you on the point, were it not for the second that they actively went out to get into the fray and get some scores added. Maybe they didn't realise how much impact it would have, and I'm fairly certain they didn't like the smug in here. Unlike us, CCP Devs can change rules to backfire the smug :)

Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 24	Posted - 2013.05.12 15:28:00 - [31] - Quote Eram Fidard wrote: What would have been so ******* difficult about saying: Thanks for the event CCP, I've sent feedback to your event co-ordinators regarding what I consider poor planning on the part of the event devs. Kudos to PL for taking the title, and to everyone who participated. /thread Do we look like quiet and shy people to you? We like our smug, and when someone, even CCP dudes, goes and adds random rules that completely change the numbers on a whim; well damn sure we'll call em out in a threadnought. Personally I don't mind the PL smug or the little infights between our members and theirs, that's ex-gf stuff. So yes, that's why ;) E: and btw, the Fozzie trolling posts and the way the rule change was conveyed had a lot of CCP smug and lulz in it. Hence why I said I think our smugfest beforehand had a part in it.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 24	Posted - 2013.05.12 15:37:00 - [32] - Quote Says the 7 month old alt? Who cares what the rest of eve think ,you think PL care? Most of eve think they are douchebags, and nb they are (and so are we!). Nobody gives much of a toss what 'the rest of eve' thinks kek, except Chribba <3 As for CCP doing nice stuff, we all know CCP have a track record of making sound and on the level judgment calls
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 25	Posted - 2013.05.12 15:48:00 - [33] - Quote Eram Fidard wrote: Oh hey thanks for the age check. I had no idea how old this alt was, that was very helpful of you. Because nobody ever used a forum alt, ever. The thing I find the funniest about all this is your sense of entitlement. You honestly think if you whine long and hard enough, CCP is going to change their decision for you. Remind you of any other stereotypically whiny social groups in eve? Hi-sec carebears? Whining has got a lot of things put into eve (or not)! On the matter of CCP making any further comments here, or heaven forbid make ANOTHER 180, I don't think they will nor do I really hope so. In my eyes they made a call for all-too-human reasons, and it can be argued that it was a bad call for many reasons (hand it to a POS-fight equiv/changing pretty clear ruleset, etc) but can also be argued the other way. Their own behaviour indicated they had all intentions to put 'CCP spawned items' in the middle of this event, which means they did mean to count it. Otherwise you'd expect a 'Hey guys CCP fleets will be roaming during this event but please be aware their kill values do not count to this event'. The only thing the CCP guys can say is 'we made a call' so what more do we expect? Nothing really, but it won't stop us pointing out the glaring holes in said call. As above, let's hope they make it clearer next time, unlike the million times now they've failed on communications.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 25	Posted - 2013.05.12 16:06:00 - [34] - Quote IamBeastx wrote: Lets not forget that when ccp comes to fight, they come kitted out in all ways with the idea of losing everything eventually, including the pods, something that normal players try to never lose and is practically impossible to lose in lowsec if you try. How much isk where the pod mails worth in total. Well the ones with snakes were ~2.5bil, ignoring all 0 value stuff in there. I think we counted it up to ~50-60 bil, but that's from posts here pre-announcement. And yes I'd agree they came to diaf eventually, but combined with their quite specific ruleset and lack of 'hey guys we don't count' gave nobody any reason to think it wouldn't. It's not like they came in their polaris ships.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 25	Posted - 2013.05.12 16:15:00 - [35] - Quote @IamBeastx yes you're right the 40bil of pods is unusual. However they were lost in your usual low-sec way, gangs brawling it out around gates. Whilst I applaud the nice plan to use the Nyx, it's a pos-like situation and not really anything you see in low sec either. It was silly of CCP to put it on the exact same day, I haven't found a convincing argument as to why they'd do that other than they didn't really give it much thought and didn't have the insight to realise the kind of fight (from nullsec entities) it would draw. Maybe I'm misinterpreting the comp though, maybe it WAS just about getting players to kill each other, and not a celebration of low-sec itself (just happened to be there). In which case, we went for the CCP fleet (cause we don't do POS style engagements, we just don't have the numbers) and you guys drew the better ticket. So yeah, when it comes to unusual situations, I think ours befit the spirit of low sec ;)
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 25	Posted - 2013.05.12 16:19:00 - [36] - Quote What, I've been totally level headed this entire thread
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 25	Posted - 2013.05.12 16:30:00 - [37] - Quote So the thread outcome is that PL are still smuglords (except against Vargurs), CCP still have no love for low sec people and can't communicate for ****. Sounds like business as usual, 10 years and counting.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 25	Posted - 2013.05.12 16:38:00 - [38] - Quote Hey welcome to the thread, read the last 20 pages that contain shreds of actual logically construed argument and discussion and do get back to us on that.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 25	Posted - 2013.05.12 16:40:00 - [39] - Quote Dark Flare wrote: Dirk Action wrote: I mean, if you say PL can appreciate it, I guess so, in a :shobon: oh that's so cute they think they matter :shobon: sort of way havent you only been in pl for like a couple of months The amount of sniggerdly scrubs that get to poast is silly, Grath is not keeping a tight leash! Although I can't see PL forums anymore so there might be internal STFU to the recently arrived.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 25	Posted - 2013.05.12 16:46:00 - [40] - Quote https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_pilot.php?id=Dirk+Action good whoring on 4 kills there mate. Tell me, where do you see yourself in the internal hierarchy of PL? I doubt it's anywhere near the throneroom (lol SNORK).

Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 29	Posted - 2013.05.12 20:48:00 - [41] - Quote You guys should try a bit harder in SCL. (you know the SCL that Fozzie always whiteknights)
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 32	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:15:00 - [42] - Quote There's not much fun/point into jumping into a 700+ people system on max TIDI to engage an embedded force of about 5x our own size with grid loaded. If you guys ever decide to actually roam around low-sec looking for a brawl, that's a different story. On the SCL stuff, I'd love to put a team together from our end, I hadn't heard much of it until the 3rd edition. Other than me, it's only Darkflare in here now, who only sporadically puts on the whiny-hat. Other than XBeast's reasonably argument on the interpretation of the contest and the rule change, it's been mostly <6 month old corp merger leeches that are trying to survive until the next purge. It looks like you're not very busy at the moment really v0v
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 33	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:31:00 - [43] - Quote EdFromHumanResources wrote: Ramirez Dora wrote: There's not much fun/point into jumping into a 700+ people system on max TIDI to engage an embedded force of about 5x our own size with grid loaded. If you guys ever decide to actually roam around low-sec looking for a brawl, that's a different story. On the SCL stuff, I'd love to put a team together from our end, I hadn't heard much of it until the 3rd edition. Other than me, it's only Darkflare in here now, who only sporadically puts on the whiny-hat. Other than XBeast's reasonably argument on the interpretation of the contest and the rule change, it's been mostly <6 month old corp merger leeches that are trying to survive until the next purge. It looks like you're not very busy at the moment really v0v So what you're saying is you won't be trying next year because it's "has no point" now that you're expected to actually fight like everybody else. My my, how telling. Right, just because you're a little wallflower I'll spell it out for you. We're a low sec corp, we bring around 60 duders when we're rolling 'big', but often we roll smaller. We create and utilise doctrines that work quite damn well. What we mostly DON'T do is engagements much bigger than 200 people, because A) it hardly ever happens in low-sec, but if it does we'll roll into the middle of it (and often have outnumber 5x+) B) if it's someone organised like a large null-sec alliance with decent doctrines then it might be suicidal unless they bring less/our doctrine is a great counter and we dictate the fight. That's pure math, I've seen and flewn doctrines on both sides and both sides have very clever people thinking up new stuff. We're simply not as big, nor do we want to be, nobody in low-sec runs around in maxed out fleets (except the FW scrubs at times like gal peeps). This was a low-sec comp, and as I stated before maybe i misinterpreted it as some low-sec loving from CCP wanting brawls all over the place. What happened near that Nyx was the logical equivalent of a POS bash, a null-sec TIDI fest. If you mean 'fight like the rest' as in 'fight like in nullsec' then you are right, for above reasons we don't want to (most of us like low-sec for NOT being null-sec crap) and in other cases we simply can't due to numbers/SC superiority. Either you don't understand low-sec, or you're simply intentionally choosing to ignore it because you consider yourself all too funny. If they do this next year we'll be there, and you probably won't have an SC event to help you sit on and lure in the stream of scrubs (unless you want to put your own there, feel free). E: I'm so mad I keep posting actual sound arguments for smuglords to reply to!
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 34	Posted - 2013.05.13 09:50:00 - [44] - Quote EdFromHumanResources wrote: You know for an alliance named after pee you guys sure do take **** seriously. That's how we roll son, it's like 'HA these guys are named after wee... OMG I AM BURNING ARGH MY POD' nbs. As for me personally, I'm a pedantic fella who will keep srsposting whilst everyone and their dog descends into the pits of spergsmugposting. It's really off putting to some people, which makes it all the better for me!
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 34	Posted - 2013.05.13 10:14:00 - [45] - Quote I don't think we've been blobbed by PL in a looong time, we did get some SCs dropping in to try and kill ours and they all horribly failed at that (but that's ok). I don't mind blobbing, it's a part of eve, just don't expect to get an actual fight in low-sec running around in one of them with a decent doctrine going. T1 frigs/cruisers you might get something though! We do get the lone ranger terrible PL scrublord coming through suj area now and then, but scrublords are everywhere some of the fits are just /o\
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 34	Posted - 2013.05.13 10:48:00 - [46] - Quote Next he'll start pointing out Fozzie is ex-PL and big bromance etc, etc. You should see our internal stuff, there's a big red poast for Darkflare with 'STOP POSTING SPERG' kek.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 34	Posted - 2013.05.13 10:52:00 - [47] - Quote It's ok m8, you keep going. I'm going to have some lunch in a sec, and hopefully this thread will still be going strong
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 34	Posted - 2013.05.13 11:23:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: I think the important thing here is that we all had fun on this day. Snuff Box kicked our butts pretty hard like PL have in the past. As far as I remember, these fine groups of killers have killed me twice each now :). GF! I don't think there's ever been a CCP event that actually turned out the way you guys had it imagined, has there? :P
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 34	Posted - 2013.05.13 12:14:00 - [49] - Quote @Ed, Haha, that's such a childish reply tbh. Anyway, we're rehashing arguments already made. I think only XBeast had a go at doing it rationally (and he made some decent points). My expectations are CCP will make one more post in this thread to say the flag is going up and lock it, and totally ignore the last 30 odd pages because what are they possibly going to say? In a perfect world I'd love to see some explanations as to the spirit of the competition they envisaged, the method of calculation and some noncommital 'oops'. Life isn't fair indeed, but threadnoughts afterwards are part of life too!
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 35	Posted - 2013.05.13 12:22:00 - [50] - Quote EdFromHumanResources wrote: Ramirez Dora wrote: @Ed, Haha, that's such a childish reply tbh. Anyway, we're rehashing arguments already made. I think only XBeast had a go at doing it rationally (and he made some decent points). My expectations are CCP will make one more post in this thread to say the flag is going up and lock it, and totally ignore the last 30 odd pages because what are they possibly going to say? In a perfect world I'd love to see some explanations as to the spirit of the competition they envisaged, the method of calculation and some noncommital 'oops'. Life isn't fair indeed, but threadnoughts afterwards are part of life too! Why attempt rational on children throwing a temper tantrum when standing back and letting them tire themselves out is so much more productive? No one has or is going to take your "arguments" seriously. Actually, multiple members of PL have, I simply ignore all the sperglords in between (that includes Darkflare for 99%). You're not exactly standing back, you're still hypocritically trying to point out not to take anything in eve seriously through posting, by posting about it. I think what Darkflare wanted, in between the spam, is for CCP to give some indication as to why they made the call they did, and where the calcs came from. It's not like we're sitting here going OMG EX-PL CCP DUDES ARE BIASING **** TO PL, because as much as the relationship might be there, I understand they are people like everyone else and hold to a professional standard being CCP employees (and if they didn't someone with a bigger stick would come along to slap them on the wrist anyway). So yes, i'll be rational until the end of this thread when said flag goes up tyvm.

Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 35	Posted - 2013.05.13 12:34:00 - [51] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: Dark Flare wrote: CCP Guard wrote: I think the important thing here is that we all had fun on this day. Snuff Box kicked our butts pretty hard like PL have in the past. As far as I remember, these fine groups of killers have killed me twice each now :). GF! lol still not owning up to changing the rules after the OP eh? trying to deflect it with "at least we had fun !!!" l.o.l. its ok, we understand that you had to do it because you're too scared to have our alliance name above your building We'd have no problem having a Urine flag on our building had it gone down like that :D. But like Eterne stated we just didn't want our spawned implants to tip the scales because they weren't bought for ISK and didn't have any actual ISK value. Hey, if we do this again I'll vote for skipping the implants altogether since I just like to brawl on gates anyway :D. You guys put on a great show and were the undisputed champions of kicking CCP butt that night. You should really call it King of Eve or something, as we had nullsec and lowsec style fighting going on. There's no way low sec entities can match nullsec alliances' numbers (simple maths really) and we (well I) was assuming you put this comp into low sec for the very reason that you wanted to avoid the fights that would ensue had you just done it in null-sec. We don't mind you rolling with extreme fits/implants, it IS fun for our side too. It's just that everyone including PL (as per the lack of their posts pre-announcement) had simply figured you'd gone in balls deep and the kills counted, so next time let people know even if it's just before/after everyone diaf. Your rules were clear to everyone, and it did really make us look like a bunch of dicks (which granted we can be :D).
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 35	Posted - 2013.05.13 12:42:00 - [52] - Quote This is the point in the B-rated movie where you two sperglords make mad sensual love, for crying out loud.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 35	Posted - 2013.05.13 12:50:00 - [53] - Quote You two are making it hard for Guard or any of them devs to tell me what the spirit of the comp was meant to be, and I'm trying to get PL to have an even shinier title ffs.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 35	Posted - 2013.05.13 12:54:00 - [54] - Quote Elendar wrote: This reminds me of the last time we met snuffbox in lowsec, they thought they had won that time too and posted wildly in local as they dropped my poor innocent fweddit alt. Then they lost 20 dreads. That's before I joined mate, it'd be 35 now.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.13 16:17:00 - [55] - Quote Christ, I go away for a meeting and come back to people having gone full ******, then some lone guy shows up at the end to save the thread (but it's still a B-movie). Anyway, are we making it to 50? We ran out of actual rational stuff to differentiate over at least 5 pages ago, so what topic is next?
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.13 16:24:00 - [56] - Quote IamBeastx wrote: Ramirez Dora wrote: Christ, I go away for a meeting and come back to people having gone full ******, then some lone guy shows up at the end to save the thread (but it's still a B-movie). Anyway, are we making it to 50? We ran out of actual rational stuff to differentiate over at least 5 pages ago, so what topic is next? Not only are we kings of lowsec, but we are also noble born and rightfully in charge. Remember last time PL weren't blue to half of nullsec (I know you prob aren't now but this whole ACRONYM I CBA TO REMEMBER block you're part of is HUGE) and we tried to hold sov space? Yeah, that ended up going not so well, with the bloat and stuff. Also, Y- etc, there's a lot of winning and then someone has to commit a dozen SCs to the wrong fite! Imma just saying, HUBRIS m8.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.13 17:15:00 - [57] - Quote Both of you failed to check corp history? There were many lulz had about both of those, also the time Shamis (it was Shamis iirc) and his UNBREAKABLE rotating password resulting in Kugu having a booboo and dumping the entire PL forums on the public interwebs. The amount of sperg from internal corp forum bashing on other PL corps was funny, we in HABIT taking the lead in that area heh. So how much would I have known? Hmm, everything?
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.13 17:45:00 - [58] - Quote Amantus wrote: yeah well im viper shizzie m8, all good, I'm collecting all the **** and isk you owe me kk.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.13 18:29:00 - [59] - Quote I actually have to like that Darkflare poast, oh dear.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.13 18:38:00 - [60] - Quote Some of these PL guys still know the smuglord rulebook, you ignore the complete derp of your fellow corp mates and quote the nearest pyramid to divert the thread!

Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.13 18:45:00 - [61] - Quote I should say 'no u' more often tbh, now I'm married and I have 2 kids
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.13 19:22:00 - [62] - Quote Soldarius wrote: @OP, The smug is strong with this one. But congrats on winning. Because you won. You beat everybody. They lost. In case anyone doesn't understand, PL won. Am I doing it rite? About time a fanboi showed up.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.13 19:50:00 - [63] - Quote Xolve, I think you have me mistaken with Darkflare here, I never mentioned the AT with the alliance panel? :) Also, you're some alt, unless you truly are a 7 month old idiot. Still, even a 7 month alt should know to address the right person to try a funny retort eh.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.13 20:01:00 - [64] - Quote Xolve wrote: Ramirez Dora wrote: Still, even a 7 month alt should know to address the right person to try a funny retort eh. Three words: View. Older. History. Also- given the hilarious amount of dumb displayed by your corp members, at this point, you'd be hard pressed to convince anyone that your not some single amorphous mass of stupidity and mental degradation. Oh neat, you're older than 7 months but still just a LOAD of random corps that you jumped between. Sorry, was I meant to see something specific there to impress?
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.13 20:09:00 - [65] - Quote Xolve wrote: Ramirez Dora wrote: Oh neat, you're older than 7 months but still just a LOAD of random corps that you jumped between. Sorry, was I meant to see something specific there to impress? From OSHIT to HABIT, to Snuff Box? Really... talk about taking a step down. Sorry was I meant to take you seriously here either? I can't tell with you really. You obviously have no idea what we do, or bothered to read my awesome biographical reasons for liking low sec earlier on.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 42	Posted - 2013.05.13 22:48:00 - [66] - Quote Hey guys, we're posting with you for 40 pages, but you're the tryhards. We're the ones trying to make funnies (except a few exceptions that actually reason a bit) and spew random insults, but to call us out on being in PL all of a month having been in every sandy vag in eve beforehand is totally not cool yo. Still, let us await the end of this glorious thread, when the final CCP announcement surely comes.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 42	Posted - 2013.05.14 10:27:00 - [67] - Quote impli wrote: Grarr Dexx wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: It was decided all CCP stuff was spawned using devhax, so they had no ISK value and thus didn't count. Quote: All kills which adhere to these guidelines will count, regardless of the circumstances surrounding them. Next time you rig it, you gotta word the ruling better, mate. M8 ... above all the contest rules .. there is a EULA... read it ... and stop fagging. I did mate, it doesn't seem to say anything along the lines of 'You can't point it out when we obviously do a 180 and invoke the above right for us to make such a 180'. You seem to be unable to rationally comment on the silliness of making a drastic rule change after the whole event is done and dusted (or you know, the fact they fail to take into account the raised eyebrows when an ex-PL dev announces said 180). We can go completely down the conspiracy theory lunatic path and envisage Fozzie doing the calcs with and without, seeing PL will win without and going to Eterne to suggest 'we probably shouldn't count our pods insert vague reason about not being bought from market'. But you know, I no longer have my glass orb in-game, and I haven't been using the fishtank cam so one can only make wild imaginary claims kek. ps: I do like the suggestion X pages ago of 'show the stats without the Nyx event system included' even if it's only for giggles. I'd assume NC. or Shadow Cartel might have won then, it'd be much closer anyway. Or perhaps even waffles if they weren't just whoring on the Nyx event too.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 42	Posted - 2013.05.14 12:52:00 - [68] - Quote Haha, I think I'll just do whatever I want and keep pointing at the paper thin reasoning. The train of thought that something awful should not be complained about because it has always been like that is ridiculous. You're not obliged to F5 this, it's not like you're actually trying to discuss the matter.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 42	Posted - 2013.05.14 15:18:00 - [69] - Quote Alli in still-deluding-myself-to-think-anyone-else-is-posting-ABOUT-PL. I think the people who were mad about YOU specifically winning left long ago (although Darkflare may have some mad in him for that, I try not to pry his thoughts). That being said, please continue celebrating, it keeps the thread alive!
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 42	Posted - 2013.05.14 18:42:00 - [70] - Quote WAIT A MINUTE, that's an awesome Stein there, why didn't you fucks tell me about this earlier. On topic again, I think it's a bit too much straight out claim Fozzie & co biased it. You just don't inspire a lot of trust saying Eterne, Fozzie and Co took a whole week to chew over these stats to come up with a call that basically boils down to 'we excluded over 50% of the total value killed that day because no actual value'. That excludes a lot more than just CCP stuff anyway. I want to think otherwise, more like XBeast was thinking, but the above implies you lot had to have had both sets of stats in front of you. That's a pretty choice to make at that stage. Does not help you guys reveal about as much as my conservative grandmother does. I need a shower now, BRRRRR.

Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 42	Posted - 2013.05.14 20:03:00 - [71] - Quote Azran Zala wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: I was going to show someone this thread, but it is heading towards 50 pages and I don't want to force her to read the whole thing. What is the TL;DR version? PL who were running in second place won Kings of Lowsec competition because Snuff who were in the lead were disqualified for having 55 CCP employee's in their corp. Low sec won PL, because CCP snuffed the devhax.
Ramirez Dora Snuff Box Urine Alliance 43	Posted - 2013.05.14 20:53:00 - [72] - Quote I'd like to thank everyone who's stuck with me through the last (almost) 50 pages.

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